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	<title>Comments on: McDonnell Endorses the Ousting of RPV Chairman Jeff Frederick. McDonnell signs RPV Suicide Pact</title>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
		<link>http://tidewaterliberty.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-endorses-the-ousting-of-rpv-chairman-jeff-frederick-mcdonnell-signs-rpv-suicide-pact/#comment-1831</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Britt Howard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you Vispetti.

Not only did McDonnell come out strong against Jeff Frederick but, he is known as Bob &quot;one gun a month&quot; McDonnell to those supporting the 2nd amendment. He supported the HRTA, thinks oral sex should be a felony, and tried to foist on us watered down legislation that was billed as eminent domain reform. Thank goodness his pitiful excuse that protected nobody&#039;s property rights failed. REAL eminent domain reform was passed the following year.

I really don&#039;t see myself voting for McDonnell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Vispetti.</p>
<p>Not only did McDonnell come out strong against Jeff Frederick but, he is known as Bob &#8220;one gun a month&#8221; McDonnell to those supporting the 2nd amendment. He supported the HRTA, thinks oral sex should be a felony, and tried to foist on us watered down legislation that was billed as eminent domain reform. Thank goodness his pitiful excuse that protected nobody&#8217;s property rights failed. REAL eminent domain reform was passed the following year.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t see myself voting for McDonnell.</p>
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		<title>By: vispetti</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“We the People” are just going to have to keep giving the Republican Party a dose of truth until they are humiliated into embracing principles and honesty. It isn’t enough that they lost the state to the Democrats in the Presidential election, Gilmore lost his senatorial race to Mark Warner and that Hagar lost his chairman seat to Frederick. People have had it with the tricks and traps of this party. They humiliated Dr. Ron Paul last year, likely stole Bob Marshall’s election at the state convention, abused the rights of the Ron Paul delegates to assemble together at the national convention by taking their signs and buttons, and now they have succeeded in ousting Jeff Frederick, the first Hispanic chairman.

Do you all see the handwriting on the wall? This party, from the highest echelons to the small town political realm, is waging war against anyone who dares to restore the party back to its conservative values. They have issued yet another blow against liberty and the sovereignty of our country. Even the so-called conservative media are doing their best to neutralize our liberty movement by creating phony movements. Gilmore recently created some kind of “Patriot” organization, Glenn Beck is dazzling conservative listeners with his mixed messages and starting similar kinds of organizations. Fox News reporters are forced to discuss terms like “New World Order” and “global currency”. This is the oldest trick in the book to regain power of any political organization — Neutralize the opposition! 

It is common practice for globalist controlled organizations like the Republican and Democrat parties to snuff out any threat to their agenda. With genuine patriot movements on the increase, Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty being one of the largest, it means that citizens are questioning the false left/right paradigm. This false left/right fight is what has kept the elite in power. The true patriot groups represent a severe threat to the current order. It is clear to me that the word is being handed down from top levels of both Republican and Democrat parties that they keep their movements in check and not to let them get out of hand. Hence, neutralize the so-called “fringe” part of the party. The Democrats appear to have succeeded at this but the Republicans are having some difficulty with the liberty and patriot movements springing up all over the country.

I am offended by that term “fringe”! Yet, this is the image that the media continues to portray of those who speak out against tyranny (eugenics programs such as abortion, global governance and currency, unjustified wars, etc). The only reason some Republicans keep using the term “fringe” is because they are brainwashed by Fox News media, who mock freedom and liberty minded people. Yesterday, I spoke with Jeff supporters who were upset about his ousting. Yet they both voted for Gilmore and pledged to vote for McDonnell. They both told me that I would be a part of the problem if I didn’t take a stand for the party and vote for ANY Republican who could beat a Democrat. They practically threw “principles” out of the window. Talk about Doublethink! I explained to them that I will take a stand and vote my principles. I also explained to them that I would rather see the Republican Party burn down and be rebuilt from scratch with true conservative and liberty minded people who are able to THINK for themselves. Yes, these two folks support voting for the lesser of two evils to maintain Republican power by any means necessary. One supporter explained that Ron Paul’s message is good but some supporters are a little too passionate. The supporter also said that Ron Paul was selfish for having us not support Republicans (good or bad) when they run against Democrats and that Paul was basically using us to maintain his power. Complete Doublethink! He basically suggested that Paul had less than honest motives and had a good message simultaneously — the same thing that Fox News does every day. Strangely enough, Paul doesn’t have to be a congressman and doesn’t even take the Government’s health insurance package. Paul actually cares about this country! 

Folks, we had better start hitting our neighborhood streets and warn and educate our politically sleeping citizens to get involved in the Republican conventions to out number the doublethinking Republicans. And I mean yesterday! We are going to have to have a mob of 1000 people join each unit committee in one day for every 6 months with one agenda– to oust all of the old guard. Otherwise, we are going to lose any fight to restore principles back to this party and we will always have Republican Heckle or Democrat Jekyll running our country into destruction. As it is now, the most unprincipled characters are being elected by many Republicans who are conditioned to think as Fox News thinks, and who lack the backbone to stand for principles. It is an endless cycle of the blind supporting the blind. All will fall in a ditch. They have the numbers and we Constitutional loving Republicans DO NOT. We can’t convince all of these establishment Republicans to embrace liberty and freedom as many are conditioned to think this way and many will never change even with the current threats to our sovereignty. Sadly enough, these Republicans are in a hypnotized cult like state of mind like the characters in “1984″ who shouted “BE! BE! BE”!

Actions taken during Ron Paul’s Presidential Campaign, need to be revved up!

The statements made by Tony on the Jeff Frederick issue inflicted some truth-pain, as he spoke from the heart http://hamptonroads.com/2009/04/virginia-gop-removes-frederick-state-chairman. Now Ashleigh and I have inflicted some truth-pain in the following article: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/V/VA_VIRGINIA_REPUBLICANS_FREDERICK_VAOL-?SITE=VASTR&amp;SECTION=STATE&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&amp;CTIME=2009-04-04-18-50-51. While the Republicans scramble to fix their image problem, the Democrats will continue to control it all and push through their version of a new order. If this happens, hopefully more compromising Republicans will begin to understand what the liberty movements have been saying. I’m convinced that the more the Republicans lose, they will be forced to accept the warnings of this community. But first they must take off their blinders and be brave enough to better understand who really controls the two major parties. 

Will the next vital blow to the Republican Party be McDonnell&#039;s failure to win the governor&#039;s race?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We the People” are just going to have to keep giving the Republican Party a dose of truth until they are humiliated into embracing principles and honesty. It isn’t enough that they lost the state to the Democrats in the Presidential election, Gilmore lost his senatorial race to Mark Warner and that Hagar lost his chairman seat to Frederick. People have had it with the tricks and traps of this party. They humiliated Dr. Ron Paul last year, likely stole Bob Marshall’s election at the state convention, abused the rights of the Ron Paul delegates to assemble together at the national convention by taking their signs and buttons, and now they have succeeded in ousting Jeff Frederick, the first Hispanic chairman.</p>
<p>Do you all see the handwriting on the wall? This party, from the highest echelons to the small town political realm, is waging war against anyone who dares to restore the party back to its conservative values. They have issued yet another blow against liberty and the sovereignty of our country. Even the so-called conservative media are doing their best to neutralize our liberty movement by creating phony movements. Gilmore recently created some kind of “Patriot” organization, Glenn Beck is dazzling conservative listeners with his mixed messages and starting similar kinds of organizations. Fox News reporters are forced to discuss terms like “New World Order” and “global currency”. This is the oldest trick in the book to regain power of any political organization — Neutralize the opposition! </p>
<p>It is common practice for globalist controlled organizations like the Republican and Democrat parties to snuff out any threat to their agenda. With genuine patriot movements on the increase, Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty being one of the largest, it means that citizens are questioning the false left/right paradigm. This false left/right fight is what has kept the elite in power. The true patriot groups represent a severe threat to the current order. It is clear to me that the word is being handed down from top levels of both Republican and Democrat parties that they keep their movements in check and not to let them get out of hand. Hence, neutralize the so-called “fringe” part of the party. The Democrats appear to have succeeded at this but the Republicans are having some difficulty with the liberty and patriot movements springing up all over the country.</p>
<p>I am offended by that term “fringe”! Yet, this is the image that the media continues to portray of those who speak out against tyranny (eugenics programs such as abortion, global governance and currency, unjustified wars, etc). The only reason some Republicans keep using the term “fringe” is because they are brainwashed by Fox News media, who mock freedom and liberty minded people. Yesterday, I spoke with Jeff supporters who were upset about his ousting. Yet they both voted for Gilmore and pledged to vote for McDonnell. They both told me that I would be a part of the problem if I didn’t take a stand for the party and vote for ANY Republican who could beat a Democrat. They practically threw “principles” out of the window. Talk about Doublethink! I explained to them that I will take a stand and vote my principles. I also explained to them that I would rather see the Republican Party burn down and be rebuilt from scratch with true conservative and liberty minded people who are able to THINK for themselves. Yes, these two folks support voting for the lesser of two evils to maintain Republican power by any means necessary. One supporter explained that Ron Paul’s message is good but some supporters are a little too passionate. The supporter also said that Ron Paul was selfish for having us not support Republicans (good or bad) when they run against Democrats and that Paul was basically using us to maintain his power. Complete Doublethink! He basically suggested that Paul had less than honest motives and had a good message simultaneously — the same thing that Fox News does every day. Strangely enough, Paul doesn’t have to be a congressman and doesn’t even take the Government’s health insurance package. Paul actually cares about this country! </p>
<p>Folks, we had better start hitting our neighborhood streets and warn and educate our politically sleeping citizens to get involved in the Republican conventions to out number the doublethinking Republicans. And I mean yesterday! We are going to have to have a mob of 1000 people join each unit committee in one day for every 6 months with one agenda– to oust all of the old guard. Otherwise, we are going to lose any fight to restore principles back to this party and we will always have Republican Heckle or Democrat Jekyll running our country into destruction. As it is now, the most unprincipled characters are being elected by many Republicans who are conditioned to think as Fox News thinks, and who lack the backbone to stand for principles. It is an endless cycle of the blind supporting the blind. All will fall in a ditch. They have the numbers and we Constitutional loving Republicans DO NOT. We can’t convince all of these establishment Republicans to embrace liberty and freedom as many are conditioned to think this way and many will never change even with the current threats to our sovereignty. Sadly enough, these Republicans are in a hypnotized cult like state of mind like the characters in “1984″ who shouted “BE! BE! BE”!</p>
<p>Actions taken during Ron Paul’s Presidential Campaign, need to be revved up!</p>
<p>The statements made by Tony on the Jeff Frederick issue inflicted some truth-pain, as he spoke from the heart <a href="http://hamptonroads.com/2009/04/virginia-gop-removes-frederick-state-chairman" rel="nofollow">http://hamptonroads.com/2009/04/virginia-gop-removes-frederick-state-chairman</a>. Now Ashleigh and I have inflicted some truth-pain in the following article: <a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/V/VA_VIRGINIA_REPUBLICANS_FREDERICK_VAOL-?SITE=VASTR&#038;SECTION=STATE&#038;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&#038;CTIME=2009-04-04-18-50-51" rel="nofollow">http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/V/VA_VIRGINIA_REPUBLICANS_FREDERICK_VAOL-?SITE=VASTR&#038;SECTION=STATE&#038;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&#038;CTIME=2009-04-04-18-50-51</a>. While the Republicans scramble to fix their image problem, the Democrats will continue to control it all and push through their version of a new order. If this happens, hopefully more compromising Republicans will begin to understand what the liberty movements have been saying. I’m convinced that the more the Republicans lose, they will be forced to accept the warnings of this community. But first they must take off their blinders and be brave enough to better understand who really controls the two major parties. </p>
<p>Will the next vital blow to the Republican Party be McDonnell&#8217;s failure to win the governor&#8217;s race?</p>
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		<title>By: John  Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John  Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, Tabor saying social cons should go to hell and Howard calling me a defender of kiddie porn is so &quot;reasonable&quot;. I can see why you might consider (my offense) of calling you a POS to be worse than (Howard&#039;s offense) of calling me a defender of kiddie porn. Now we are really getting at how libertarian minds work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Tabor saying social cons should go to hell and Howard calling me a defender of kiddie porn is so &#8220;reasonable&#8221;. I can see why you might consider (my offense) of calling you a POS to be worse than (Howard&#8217;s offense) of calling me a defender of kiddie porn. Now we are really getting at how libertarian minds work.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Tabor</title>
		<link>http://tidewaterliberty.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/mcdonnell-endorses-the-ousting-of-rpv-chairman-jeff-frederick-mcdonnell-signs-rpv-suicide-pact/#comment-1811</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Tabor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doe, you have become tiresome. You make no sense, but for some time you served a purpose as an illustration of WHY social conservatives have destroyed the GOP. 

But you have descended to name calling and repeating the same insults as though by repeating them they will become less ludicrous. All opinions are welcome here, but rudeness is not.  

Ba-bye]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doe, you have become tiresome. You make no sense, but for some time you served a purpose as an illustration of WHY social conservatives have destroyed the GOP. </p>
<p>But you have descended to name calling and repeating the same insults as though by repeating them they will become less ludicrous. All opinions are welcome here, but rudeness is not.  </p>
<p>Ba-bye</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Britt Howard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I no longer have interest in your arguements let alone following them. You crossed the line way too many times.

You say watching kiddie porn doesn&#039;t hurt anyone.

We say it violated a child and possessing it supports that violence. It lends itself to demand for more. Don&#039;t worry, you&#039;ll find plenty of people agreeing with your sick mind in the extreme left and NAMBLA. They agree with you. Go chat with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I no longer have interest in your arguements let alone following them. You crossed the line way too many times.</p>
<p>You say watching kiddie porn doesn&#8217;t hurt anyone.</p>
<p>We say it violated a child and possessing it supports that violence. It lends itself to demand for more. Don&#8217;t worry, you&#8217;ll find plenty of people agreeing with your sick mind in the extreme left and NAMBLA. They agree with you. Go chat with them.</p>
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		<title>By: John  Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John  Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve NEVER defended kiddie porn, you ignorant POS. I&#039;ve said you can&#039;t justify making it illegal based on the bankrupt philosophy that is libertarianism. You have to jump through hoops to justify it, or just be like me and outlaw because it is morally wrong, not because it causes harm. I&#039;m beginning to think that Tabor the idiot is better than you at following my arguments. And THAT is saying something. 

http://maaadddog.wordpress.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve NEVER defended kiddie porn, you ignorant POS. I&#8217;ve said you can&#8217;t justify making it illegal based on the bankrupt philosophy that is libertarianism. You have to jump through hoops to justify it, or just be like me and outlaw because it is morally wrong, not because it causes harm. I&#8217;m beginning to think that Tabor the idiot is better than you at following my arguments. And THAT is saying something. </p>
<p><a href="http://maaadddog.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://maaadddog.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Britt Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Britt Howard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, John Doe defender of kiddie porn, I can understand WHY you would be too much of a coward to use your real name. Why damage your reputation? Why not hurl insults at people with conviction while you can hide in your little secrecy.

You have a website? What is it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, John Doe defender of kiddie porn, I can understand WHY you would be too much of a coward to use your real name. Why damage your reputation? Why not hurl insults at people with conviction while you can hide in your little secrecy.</p>
<p>You have a website? What is it?</p>
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		<title>By: John  Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John  Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, you just want your own way. I don&#039;t have a problem with you wanting your own way, but you seem to have a problem with me wanting my own way. Don&#039;t give me this BULLSHIT about it being &quot;tyranny&quot; to live as I suggest. What I have been telling you is that MY WAY IS THE WAY IT WAS FOR ALMOST 200 YEARS. Not too many were sniveling around like little girls complaining about it being &quot;tyranny.&quot; Suddenly, since  you got your way in the past few decades, it&#039;s suddenly terrible what this country went through for almost two centuries. Oh the HORRORS. 

What you don&#039;t seem to understand is that we had a republican form of democracy for the first 200 years of this country&#039;s existence.  I maintain, as did the Founding Fathers (those Tyrants, as you seem to think them) that a republican form of democracy can only be maintained if the population understands and accepts the morality as set forth in the Bible. 

If a country becomes immoral or maintains a morality that leads to killing daughters who have been raped, then our form of government won&#039;t work. People like you will still be saying &quot;let me smoke my dope in my home in peace&quot; (or whatever it is you want to do in peace, I&#039;m using that as an example), but the majority, who are no longer moral, will not care what you think. &quot;Hey, we are the majority, we have the power, now we can make Don Tabor do any damn thing we want. Why not? After all, we have NO MORALS. Why do the right thing, let&#039;s do this just because we don&#039;t like Don Tabor.&quot; 

When you eliminate the biblical morals upon which this country was founded, you get a LOT more than you bargained for. Not at first. But eventually. See Germany back in the 30s and 40s, or Russia or China after the Commies took over. A majority of them didn&#039;t believe in morals either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you just want your own way. I don&#8217;t have a problem with you wanting your own way, but you seem to have a problem with me wanting my own way. Don&#8217;t give me this BULLSHIT about it being &#8220;tyranny&#8221; to live as I suggest. What I have been telling you is that MY WAY IS THE WAY IT WAS FOR ALMOST 200 YEARS. Not too many were sniveling around like little girls complaining about it being &#8220;tyranny.&#8221; Suddenly, since  you got your way in the past few decades, it&#8217;s suddenly terrible what this country went through for almost two centuries. Oh the HORRORS. </p>
<p>What you don&#8217;t seem to understand is that we had a republican form of democracy for the first 200 years of this country&#8217;s existence.  I maintain, as did the Founding Fathers (those Tyrants, as you seem to think them) that a republican form of democracy can only be maintained if the population understands and accepts the morality as set forth in the Bible. </p>
<p>If a country becomes immoral or maintains a morality that leads to killing daughters who have been raped, then our form of government won&#8217;t work. People like you will still be saying &#8220;let me smoke my dope in my home in peace&#8221; (or whatever it is you want to do in peace, I&#8217;m using that as an example), but the majority, who are no longer moral, will not care what you think. &#8220;Hey, we are the majority, we have the power, now we can make Don Tabor do any damn thing we want. Why not? After all, we have NO MORALS. Why do the right thing, let&#8217;s do this just because we don&#8217;t like Don Tabor.&#8221; </p>
<p>When you eliminate the biblical morals upon which this country was founded, you get a LOT more than you bargained for. Not at first. But eventually. See Germany back in the 30s and 40s, or Russia or China after the Commies took over. A majority of them didn&#8217;t believe in morals either.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Tabor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Tabor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK. I see your flawless logic now. If someone bases their law on Islam, that is tyranny, but if it is based on YOUR religion, that is democracy. 

Well, I have little use for either tyranny nor democracy. I choose to live in and be governed by a republic which  protects my rights and the equal rights of others, and otherwise leaves me alone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. I see your flawless logic now. If someone bases their law on Islam, that is tyranny, but if it is based on YOUR religion, that is democracy. </p>
<p>Well, I have little use for either tyranny nor democracy. I choose to live in and be governed by a republic which  protects my rights and the equal rights of others, and otherwise leaves me alone.</p>
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		<title>By: John  Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John  Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tabor, I don&#039;t know how you made it through life being so illogical. Does it succeed in your occupation when you set up absurd straw men and then ask your associates if they agree with the absurd straw man argument? 

Regarding child porn, I never said in my hypothetical that the person was &quot;purchasing&quot; the 10 year old kiddie porn. At best you could argue that because some guy looked at kiddie porn that was 10 years old some other person might try to make more kiddie porn and entice him to purchase it in the future. Pretty tenuous argument if you ask me. That&#039;s like claiming if some guy smokes pot in the privacy of his own home somebody else might sell their 10 year old as a prostitute so they could afford to buy pot wholesale in order to sell it to the user retail. HUH? Yeah, pretty tenuous. Try again to justify your absurd belief that a society can&#039;t ban kiddie porn just based on morality. 

Here&#039;s a clue about the societies that you mentioned that are run by Moslem extremists: Your precious little Constitution won&#039;t save you in those circumstances! If a vast majority of our country become Moslems, we are all fucked. They can Amend the Constitution--or more easily just get a majority of 5 of 9 Supreme Court Justices to &quot;suddenly&quot; discover the Constitutional right to impose Sharia law. That would be only a different degree than &quot;suddenly&quot; discovering the Constitutional right to commit abortion or to commit homosexual acts in private.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tabor, I don&#8217;t know how you made it through life being so illogical. Does it succeed in your occupation when you set up absurd straw men and then ask your associates if they agree with the absurd straw man argument? </p>
<p>Regarding child porn, I never said in my hypothetical that the person was &#8220;purchasing&#8221; the 10 year old kiddie porn. At best you could argue that because some guy looked at kiddie porn that was 10 years old some other person might try to make more kiddie porn and entice him to purchase it in the future. Pretty tenuous argument if you ask me. That&#8217;s like claiming if some guy smokes pot in the privacy of his own home somebody else might sell their 10 year old as a prostitute so they could afford to buy pot wholesale in order to sell it to the user retail. HUH? Yeah, pretty tenuous. Try again to justify your absurd belief that a society can&#8217;t ban kiddie porn just based on morality. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a clue about the societies that you mentioned that are run by Moslem extremists: Your precious little Constitution won&#8217;t save you in those circumstances! If a vast majority of our country become Moslems, we are all fucked. They can Amend the Constitution&#8211;or more easily just get a majority of 5 of 9 Supreme Court Justices to &#8220;suddenly&#8221; discover the Constitutional right to impose Sharia law. That would be only a different degree than &#8220;suddenly&#8221; discovering the Constitutional right to commit abortion or to commit homosexual acts in private.</p>
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